Comments on: Making the Business Case for Social Computing http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/ A blog about Knowledge Management, Communities, Collaboration, Learning, Social Computing and Work/Life Balance Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:56:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Resources on the ROI of Training « Learning Technologies Conference Blog http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-302290 Resources on the ROI of Training « Learning Technologies Conference Blog Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:34:20 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/#comment-302290 [...] Jay Cross, The Big Picture on ROI Hal Richman, Optimizing Learning Value for Capital Effects by Jeff Kelley Jay Cross, Making the Business Case for Informal Learning Tony Karrer, ROI and Metrics in eLearning George Siemens, Connectivism Wesley Frier, Beyond Seat Time John Ingham, The new frontier of human capital measurement Dennis Howlett, ROI is so Business 1.0 Not Altul Rai, Measurement of Business Processes Elsua, Making the Business Case for ROI Stephen Downes, Can’t Count Friends or Count on Them Greg Verdino, Key Takeaway from Forrester Dave Lee, e e learning  [...] [...] Jay Cross, The Big Picture on ROI Hal Richman, Optimizing Learning Value for Capital Effects by Jeff Kelley Jay Cross, Making the Business Case for Informal Learning Tony Karrer, ROI and Metrics in eLearning George Siemens, Connectivism Wesley Frier, Beyond Seat Time John Ingham, The new frontier of human capital measurement Dennis Howlett, ROI is so Business 1.0 Not Altul Rai, Measurement of Business Processes Elsua, Making the Business Case for ROI Stephen Downes, Can’t Count Friends or Count on Them Greg Verdino, Key Takeaway from Forrester Dave Lee, e e learning  [...]

]]> By: eLearning Guild 360 Report — Internet Time Blog http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-277237 eLearning Guild 360 Report — Internet Time Blog Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:53:43 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/#comment-277237 [...] What about blogs? Many address measurement issues. Jay Cross, The Big Picture on ROIHal Richman, Optimizing Learning Value for Capital Effects by Jeff Kelley Jay Cross, Making the Business Case for Informal LearningTony Karrer, ROI and Metrics in eLearningGeorge Siemens, ConnectivismWesley Frier, Beyond Seat Time John Ingham, The new frontier of human capital measurementDennis Howlett, ROI is so Business 1.0 NotAltul Rai, Measurement of Business ProcessesElsua, Making the Business Case for ROIStephen Downes, Can’t Count Friends or Count on ThemGreg Verdino, Key Takeaway from ForresterDave Lee, e e learning [...] [...] What about blogs? Many address measurement issues. Jay Cross, The Big Picture on ROIHal Richman, Optimizing Learning Value for Capital Effects by Jeff Kelley Jay Cross, Making the Business Case for Informal LearningTony Karrer, ROI and Metrics in eLearningGeorge Siemens, ConnectivismWesley Frier, Beyond Seat Time John Ingham, The new frontier of human capital measurementDennis Howlett, ROI is so Business 1.0 NotAltul Rai, Measurement of Business ProcessesElsua, Making the Business Case for ROIStephen Downes, Can’t Count Friends or Count on ThemGreg Verdino, Key Takeaway from ForresterDave Lee, e e learning [...]

]]> By: Enterprise 2.0 ROI - rant and reflection at Sims Learning Connections http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-253519 Enterprise 2.0 ROI - rant and reflection at Sims Learning Connections Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:34:32 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/#comment-253519 [...] Luis Suarez’s ELSUA blog: “Making the Business Case for Social Computing” (Part I and Deux); continuing with “Commenting further on ROI and Social Computing” (Part I and Part II) [...] [...] Luis Suarez’s ELSUA blog: “Making the Business Case for Social Computing” (Part I and Deux); continuing with “Commenting further on ROI and Social Computing” (Part I and Part II) [...]

]]> By: Famous last words of Marius » IBM Patent, RWC and RSS feed update - 13 October 2007 http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-249010 Famous last words of Marius » IBM Patent, RWC and RSS feed update - 13 October 2007 Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:20:18 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/#comment-249010 [...] Social Computing – Making the Business Case for Social Computing Making the Business Case for Social Computing - Part Deux Commenting further on ROI and Social Computing - Part I [...] [...] Social Computing – Making the Business Case for Social Computing Making the Business Case for Social Computing – Part Deux Commenting further on ROI and Social Computing – Part I [...]

]]> By: Luis Suarez http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-243923 Luis Suarez Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:57:12 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/#comment-243923 Thanks every so much for the feedback comments, folks. Very very helpful and insightful. So much so that I have decided to create a follow up weblog post and share some additional commentary on your initial reactions. Check it out and see what you think. Let's keep the conversation going :-) Thanks every so much for the feedback comments, folks. Very very helpful and insightful. So much so that I have decided to create a follow up weblog post and share some additional commentary on your initial reactions. Check it out and see what you think. Let’s keep the conversation going :-)

]]> By: E L S U A ~ A KM Blog by Luis Suarez » Blog Archive » Commenting further on ROI and Social Computing - Part I http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-243263 E L S U A ~ A KM Blog by Luis Suarez » Blog Archive » Commenting further on ROI and Social Computing - Part I Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:10:19 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/#comment-243263 [...] Over the last couple of days, I have been reading with interest the good number of different comments and blog posts related to the last couple of articles on ROI for Social Computing I created over here. During the course of yesterday and today I have been putting together some further thoughts and decided that instead of replying to those different articles, I would first go ahead and create a follow up weblog post (Or two) where I would be able to expand further those different conversations that people have been leaving as comments. Pretty much like I have done over at ITtoolbox earlier on today. Then as time goes by, I will go ahead and chime in as well on those different discussions as they are just too good to miss out. [...] [...] Over the last couple of days, I have been reading with interest the good number of different comments and blog posts related to the last couple of articles on ROI for Social Computing I created over here. During the course of yesterday and today I have been putting together some further thoughts and decided that instead of replying to those different articles, I would first go ahead and create a follow up weblog post (Or two) where I would be able to expand further those different conversations that people have been leaving as comments. Pretty much like I have done over at ITtoolbox earlier on today. Then as time goes by, I will go ahead and chime in as well on those different discussions as they are just too good to miss out. [...]

]]> By: eBusiness Industry News » Blog Archive » ROI is so Business 1.0: not http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-242855 eBusiness Industry News » Blog Archive » ROI is so Business 1.0: not Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:06:24 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/#comment-242855 [...] The moment you step beyond small scale implementations ROI is something you can’t avoid. The difficulty I have is the reasons most frequently given by the social computing mavens. They appear as attempts to sweep the topic aside. Take this from Luis Suarez: If social computing is supposed to revolutionalise the way we share our knowledge, connect with others, collaborate, communicate and innovate, then I think it is about time we move into the 21st century, progress further in that Knowledge economy and try to figure out how to get the most value out of it, because figuring out its ROI, in my opinion, is going to be a waste of time, energy and resources. [...] [...] The moment you step beyond small scale implementations ROI is something you can’t avoid. The difficulty I have is the reasons most frequently given by the social computing mavens. They appear as attempts to sweep the topic aside. Take this from Luis Suarez: If social computing is supposed to revolutionalise the way we share our knowledge, connect with others, collaborate, communicate and innovate, then I think it is about time we move into the 21st century, progress further in that Knowledge economy and try to figure out how to get the most value out of it, because figuring out its ROI, in my opinion, is going to be a waste of time, energy and resources. [...]

]]> By: E L S U A ~ A KM Blog by Luis Suarez » Blog Archive » Making the Business Case for Social Computing - Part Deux http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-242236 E L S U A ~ A KM Blog by Luis Suarez » Blog Archive » Making the Business Case for Social Computing - Part Deux Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:05:45 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/#comment-242236 [...] Links « Making the Business Case for Social Computing [...] [...] Links « Making the Business Case for Social Computing [...]

]]> By: Atul Rai http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-242001 Atul Rai Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:01:29 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/#comment-242001 Hi Luis, I really liked the cartoon strip. What I believe is that end of the day, its about the Money! Lets not think its not. Which means that we need to bring up some kind of return on the bucks the management is going to spend. THe only thing thats different is that today, we are coming to the understanding that water cooler conferences (or maybe those discussions over a few Beers ...), are a very important way to share knowledge, and resolve issues, and a simplistic way of looking at Social Computing could be as an online water cooler (minus the Beer?). Cheers, Atul. Hi Luis,

I really liked the cartoon strip. What I believe is that end of the day, its about the Money! Lets not think its not. Which means that we need to bring up some kind of return on the bucks the management is going to spend.

THe only thing thats different is that today, we are coming to the understanding that water cooler conferences (or maybe those discussions over a few Beers …), are a very important way to share knowledge, and resolve issues, and a simplistic way of looking at Social Computing could be as an online water cooler (minus the Beer?).

Cheers, Atul.

]]> By: Jay Cross http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-241897 Jay Cross Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:54:24 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2007/10/01/making-the-business-case-for-social-computing/#comment-241897 ROI = Industrial Age, tangibles only Value exchanges = today, intangibles rule ROI = Industrial Age, tangibles only

Value exchanges = today, intangibles rule

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