Comments on: The Name Game – Where Folksonomy Meets Taxonomy http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/ A blog about Knowledge Management, Communities, Collaboration, Learning, Social Computing and Work/Life Balance Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:40:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Luis Suarez http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-4267 Luis Suarez Thu, 25 May 2006 13:33:17 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/#comment-4267 Hi Peter ! Thanks ever so much for the thoughtful comments and for dropping by ! Welcome to <i><a href="http://www.elsua.net" rel="nofollow">elsua</a></i>! <br /><br /> Appreciated that trip down the memory lane, even though I haven't been that long in the company it surely brings some good memories when I first got started working on a VM department and got quite an exposure to the good old VM Forums. Ahhh, those were the times ;-) <br /><br /> <blockquote><i>"Your Folksonomy and the developing tools such as Dogear etc. are heading in the right direction. All we need to do is to get the system generated metadata linked in so users aren’t asked to re-enter that is already known!"</i></blockquote> <br /><br /> Funny that you should mention that because that is exactly what is happening and although I cannot say much, at least, not yet, I can say that same trend of thought is what is actually going on with several tagging tools available internally. They are all coming together to terms on how to get the most out of that tagging and how it would interact with that metadata already available so that if anything it would augment everything that has been put together so far in that particular space. Fascinating ! <br /><br /> As I have mentioned elsewhere already I am actually going to keep up talking about this particular subject as we go along as I am sure that plenty of people would benefit from some of the ideas and also get some interesting points of view ahead of us. Thus stay tuned because there is more! Hi Peter ! Thanks ever so much for the thoughtful comments and for dropping by ! Welcome to elsua!

Appreciated that trip down the memory lane, even though I haven’t been that long in the company it surely brings some good memories when I first got started working on a VM department and got quite an exposure to the good old VM Forums. Ahhh, those were the times ;-)

“Your Folksonomy and the developing tools such as Dogear etc. are heading in the right direction. All we need to do is to get the system generated metadata linked in so users aren’t asked to re-enter that is already known!”

Funny that you should mention that because that is exactly what is happening and although I cannot say much, at least, not yet, I can say that same trend of thought is what is actually going on with several tagging tools available internally. They are all coming together to terms on how to get the most out of that tagging and how it would interact with that metadata already available so that if anything it would augment everything that has been put together so far in that particular space. Fascinating !

As I have mentioned elsewhere already I am actually going to keep up talking about this particular subject as we go along as I am sure that plenty of people would benefit from some of the ideas and also get some interesting points of view ahead of us. Thus stay tuned because there is more!

]]> By: Peter Chomley http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-4185 Peter Chomley Thu, 25 May 2006 05:17:48 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/#comment-4185 Luis, this thread is leaading to a solution for a problem that was (first) aired in the early '80s in the IBM internal VM Forums - after IBM introduced 'Enterprise Office' aka DISSOS) in 1979 we realised that electronically filing all the documents created in an organisation wasn't much good if you couldn't retrieve them easily. STAIRS/SearchManager were too much overhead as the document volumes increased. We started discussing the need for 3 levels of document metadata: 1. document specific taxonomy 2. system generated metadata (eg organisational position data from the corporate LDAP) and 3. User generated metadata. Your Folksonomy and the developing tools such as Dogear etc. are heading in the right direction. All we need to do is to get the system generated metadata linked in so users aren't asked to re-enter that is already known! (LDAP - Positional authority vs personal authority). Keep it up. Luis, this thread is leaading to a solution for a problem that was (first) aired in the
early ’80s in the IBM internal VM Forums – after IBM introduced ‘Enterprise Office’
aka DISSOS) in 1979 we realised that electronically filing all the documents created in an
organisation wasn’t much good if you couldn’t retrieve them easily. STAIRS/SearchManager were
too much overhead as the document volumes increased.
We started discussing the need for 3 levels of document metadata:
1. document specific taxonomy
2. system generated metadata (eg organisational position data from the corporate LDAP)
and
3. User generated metadata.
Your Folksonomy and the developing tools such as Dogear etc. are heading in the right direction.
All we need to do is to get the system generated metadata linked in so users aren’t asked
to re-enter that is already known! (LDAP – Positional authority vs personal authority).
Keep it up.

]]> By: Luis Suarez http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-3460 Luis Suarez Fri, 19 May 2006 17:17:27 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/#comment-3460 Thanks a lot, Sarada-san, for dropping by and for the feedback comments and the trackback ! Welcome to <i><a href="http://www.elsua.net" rel="nofollow">elsua</a></i>! I really appreciate your feedback and I just wished I would be able to understand Japanese to enjoy reading some more of your weblog posts! Perhaps one of these days I will get busy with it. Who knows! Either way, thanks a bunch for the feedback. Greatly appreciated! <br /><br /> Thanks a lot as well, <b>Dennis</b>, for dropping by and for sharing the web link. Actually, funny that you should mention that link to your weblog because that was going to be one of the subjects for an upcoming weblog post I am working on already. I saw the post earlier on this week and thought you had some great thoughts put together as well. So stay tuned because I will be adding some of my thoughts very shortly. Again, I appreciate your feedback and the mentioning over at your weblog. Excellent stuff ! Thanks a lot, Sarada-san, for dropping by and for the feedback comments and the trackback ! Welcome to elsua! I really appreciate your feedback and I just wished I would be able to understand Japanese to enjoy reading some more of your weblog posts! Perhaps one of these days I will get busy with it. Who knows! Either way, thanks a bunch for the feedback. Greatly appreciated!

Thanks a lot as well, Dennis, for dropping by and for sharing the web link. Actually, funny that you should mention that link to your weblog because that was going to be one of the subjects for an upcoming weblog post I am working on already. I saw the post earlier on this week and thought you had some great thoughts put together as well. So stay tuned because I will be adding some of my thoughts very shortly. Again, I appreciate your feedback and the mentioning over at your weblog. Excellent stuff !

]]> By: E L S U A ~ A KM Blog » Blog Archive » Collaborative Web Tagging Workshop - Edinburgh - May 2006 http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-3459 E L S U A ~ A KM Blog » Blog Archive » Collaborative Web Tagging Workshop - Edinburgh - May 2006 Fri, 19 May 2006 17:10:10 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/#comment-3459 [...] If yesterday I created a weblog post around the topic of Folksonomy in The Name Game - Where Folksonomy Meets Taxonomy I am sure that you would find today’s weblog post worth while reading on further as well. Earlier on this morning I was actually talking to one other weblogger who has done some incredible work around the topic of folksonomies and tagging and we actually had a very interesting conversation through Skype. His name is Emanuele Quintarelli and you can find more information about him and his work over at InfoSpaces. Later on and as I go along I will be sharing some further thoughts on some of the great weblog posts he has shared so far around the topic of tagging and folksonomies. Thus stay tuned! [...] [...] If yesterday I created a weblog post around the topic of Folksonomy in The Name Game – Where Folksonomy Meets Taxonomy I am sure that you would find today’s weblog post worth while reading on further as well. Earlier on this morning I was actually talking to one other weblogger who has done some incredible work around the topic of folksonomies and tagging and we actually had a very interesting conversation through Skype. His name is Emanuele Quintarelli and you can find more information about him and his work over at InfoSpaces. Later on and as I go along I will be sharing some further thoughts on some of the great weblog posts he has shared so far around the topic of tagging and folksonomies. Thus stay tuned! [...]

]]> By: Dennis D. McDonald http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-3424 Dennis D. McDonald Fri, 19 May 2006 14:08:58 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/#comment-3424 Thanks for the mention, Luis! This might also interest you: http://www.ddmcd.com/doodads.html - Dennis Thanks for the mention, Luis!

This might also interest you:

http://www.ddmcd.com/doodads.html

- Dennis

]]> By: Tomoaki Sawada http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-3373 Tomoaki Sawada Fri, 19 May 2006 02:40:53 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/#comment-3373 Hi, I am regularly enjoying to read your netry about Dogear. As a matter of fact, my blog is named after Dogear in Japanse. Appreciatte your continued posting on this subject. BEst regards. Hi, I am regularly enjoying to read your netry about Dogear. As a matter of fact, my blog is named after Dogear in Japanse. Appreciatte your continued posting on this subject. BEst regards.

]]> By: 犬ã?®è€³ http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-3371 犬ã?®è€³ Fri, 19 May 2006 02:33:55 +0000 http://www.elsua.net/2006/05/18/the-name-game-where-folksonomy-meets-taxonomy/#comment-3371 <strong>CIO magazine on tagging at IBM...</strong> CIO magazine on tagging at IBM CIO Magazine has just come out with a well-written article on tagging in the enterprise. IBM is mentioned prominently, both in the context of dogear and in terms of the overall intranet strategy. Some choice snippets .... CIO magazine on tagging at IBM…

CIO magazine on tagging at IBM

CIO Magazine has just come out with a well-written article on tagging in the enterprise. IBM is mentioned prominently, both in the context of dogear and in terms of the overall intranet strategy. Some choice snippets ….

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